tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post5842835399561844689..comments2023-09-25T06:47:42.119-05:00Comments on Worcester Blog: Patrick pushes for in-state tuition for illegalsBill Randellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-37867653924621345572010-11-18T19:21:11.856-05:002010-11-18T19:21:11.856-05:00I am telling you folks, the continual disregard fo...I am telling you folks, the continual disregard for the rule of law in this city, state and country is like adding gasoline to an already buring fire of nat'l discontenet.<br /><br /> More and more peopel are sayign to themselves...WTF????.....why should I follow the rules when our leaders dont.............If calif. doenst get a bailout.......you wait and see the anarchy that will follow....Jahnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-7507310431149435162010-11-18T13:37:07.180-05:002010-11-18T13:37:07.180-05:00Rewarding bad / illegal behavior is something that...Rewarding bad / illegal behavior is something that liberals and conservatives will always disagree on.<br /><br />Brendan you are suggesting that we reward the illegal behavior because it feels like the right thing to do. <br /><br />That is like th federal minimum wage act. It is law now and it feels good but it really hurts the country and goes against the principles on which this great nation Rockin Randallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-53703677718372272262010-11-18T11:01:28.075-05:002010-11-18T11:01:28.075-05:00Jahn, not meant as an insult. You just tend to bo...Jahn, not meant as an insult. You just tend to bounce from one point to another rapid fire. It's easy to mistake your humor for salient points. Could be me!<br /><br />To demonstrably false claims, the one that jumped out was a burden on mass taxpayers. We're not talking free college ed here, just the same discounted rate you or I would receive. Framing this as a burden is Brendan Melicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157104291619996657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-25562916026571638622010-11-18T10:12:48.651-05:002010-11-18T10:12:48.651-05:00Let add to teh above ..... or 3 hrs of Rush and 3 ...Let add to teh above ..... or 3 hrs of Rush and 3 hours of Brendan and Messina :)Undecipherable Jahnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-1159780980699112622010-11-18T10:11:36.738-05:002010-11-18T10:11:36.738-05:00Brendan Melican said...
Jahn, you're beyond i...Brendan Melican said... <br />Jahn, you're beyond incoherent. Seriously, I have no idea what you're trying to say. What little is decipherable is at the same time 100% demonstrably false.<br /><br /> Brendan, please tell me what's incoherent and also what parts are false and what parts you cannot dechipher, so I can go back and re-write the other parts (the un-dechipherable ones) Incoherent Jahnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-91034233739745392972010-11-18T09:25:01.860-05:002010-11-18T09:25:01.860-05:00I misspoke on the state citizenship, but it actual...I misspoke on the state citizenship, but it actually reinforces my point. Lets make this easier and go to the actual laws.<br /><br />PART I, TITLE I, CHAPTER 1, Section 1 of the MGL defines citizenship as: All persons who are citizens of the United States and who are domiciled in this commonwealth are citizens thereof.<br /><br />For residency, the Secretary of States office defines residency Brendan Melicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157104291619996657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-76085671527953645612010-11-18T09:02:06.410-05:002010-11-18T09:02:06.410-05:00For the same reason you don't get to vote in M...For the same reason you don't get to vote in MA if your primary address in in NH. Or why you can't be appointed to the Worc Airport Commission if you live in Holden. We're talking residency, not citizenship; one is a state/local matter and one is a Federal matter. Each carry independent privileges and responsibilities; and they have little to do with one another. You can be a &Brendan Melicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157104291619996657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-40408968039441297382010-11-18T08:11:54.945-05:002010-11-18T08:11:54.945-05:00brendan:
I am not saying they can not go to state...brendan:<br /><br />I am not saying they can not go to state run colleges. I am saying they can not receive the benefits of lower tuition since they are illegal.<br /><br />To me the word "illegal" means something. At the same time if you want to give in state tuition rates to illegal immigrants how can you not give this same discounted rate to out of state residents that work and Bill Randellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-17104040679591444672010-11-18T07:47:11.871-05:002010-11-18T07:47:11.871-05:00Jahn, you're beyond incoherent. Seriously, I ...Jahn, you're beyond incoherent. Seriously, I have no idea what you're trying to say. What little is decipherable is at the same time 100% demonstrably false.<br /><br />Bill, you can't be a Massachusetts citizen just a Massachusetts resident. There is no category of 'illegal resident', either you are or you're not; citizenship is assigned by the feds. So if you can'Brendan Melicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157104291619996657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-30167637091118879852010-11-17T22:19:17.682-05:002010-11-17T22:19:17.682-05:00Wow
Jahn is fire up.. Brendan, I don't see...Wow<br /><br />Jahn is fire up.. Brendan, I don't see how not wanting to give illegal aliens in-state tuition equates to me wanting to round up and ship all the illgeal aliens back to their home country.<br /><br />My thoughts are simple. First, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has financial difficulites and should only give "breaks" to legal residents. Not illegal residents Bill Randellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-86040531612046127832010-11-17T21:20:11.776-05:002010-11-17T21:20:11.776-05:00That's a perfectly reasonable thought, Bill. ...That's a perfectly reasonable thought, Bill. Unfortunately unless you have a plan to round up 10+ million people and ship them overseas, it's also irrelevant. I think we're all eager for the Feds to interviene on some level here, but in the meantime we have to deal with things on a state and local level, within the scope of the law. So the question then becomes 'do you want Brendan Melicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157104291619996657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-81978968653169566452010-11-17T20:17:08.354-05:002010-11-17T20:17:08.354-05:00Finally Brendan said:
"we need to be focus...Finally Brendan said:<br /><br /> "we need to be focused on long term cost/benefits," <br /><br /> Long term cost benefit analysis would definitely say it's more financially sound to round em up and deport them.<br /><br /> Brendan, the last few days I have accidentally been tuned to WTAG at 305pm b/c I had Rush on during the previous hour(s). Believe it or not I didnt switdth Jahnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-39346488210642755722010-11-17T20:08:34.983-05:002010-11-17T20:08:34.983-05:00Brenda said:
"but were talking about young...Brenda said:<br /><br /> "but were talking about young people here, most of whom don't seem to know their immigration status"<br /><br /> Let me get this straight...they dont know their own immigration status....yet they are college material? Surely u jest?<br /><br /> Dial 1-800 Call-ICE. They will tell you your immigration status for free..now there's an illegal alien Jahnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-74090153942570257832010-11-17T20:00:09.852-05:002010-11-17T20:00:09.852-05:00Brendan said;\
So who are we talking about her...Brendan said;\<br /><br /> So who are we talking about here? People looking to better themselves through education; primarily young people.<br /><br /> Who we're talking about here is people looking to allegedly better themselves by sucking even more money from Mass taxpayers<br /> <br /> Isnt it a bit presumptuous to state that these are people looking beter them selves through Jahnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-25025943047748900502010-11-17T19:49:20.218-05:002010-11-17T19:49:20.218-05:00Brendan said:
a. Anyone who thinks the idea of...Brendan said:<br /><br /> a. Anyone who thinks the idea of locating, identifying and transporting 10+ million undocumented people is even possible, is watching way to many crime dramas on TV.<br /><br /> Here's an idea for locating them. Give them the tuition deal and when they show up at school riding in their pimped out SUV with $5,000 spinner rims and in their $300 Nikes and with theirJahnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-47151704490888700562010-11-17T14:33:17.978-05:002010-11-17T14:33:17.978-05:00Brendan:
Unlike what Martha Coakley thinks, I thi...Brendan:<br /><br />Unlike what Martha Coakley thinks, I think it should be illegal to be illegal in Massachusetts.<br /><br />BillBill Randellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-18024676968716436992010-11-17T13:28:17.816-05:002010-11-17T13:28:17.816-05:00Go smoke some more POT Brendan.Go smoke some more POT Brendan.rockin randallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-75943899844181640192010-11-17T13:15:33.383-05:002010-11-17T13:15:33.383-05:00Absolutely. It's the only logical, fiscally r...Absolutely. It's the only logical, fiscally responsible approach unless we were to scrap in-state tuition rates for all. <br /><br />First we have to look at the 'send them all home crowd', that concept is a logistical and financial impossibility. Anyone who thinks the idea of locating, identifying and transporting 10+ million undocumented people is even possible, is watching way toBrendan Melicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157104291619996657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-43506636187711260792010-11-17T13:04:41.505-05:002010-11-17T13:04:41.505-05:00If you live in Mass (with or without the federal g...If you live in Mass (with or without the federal government's permission) you are paying Mass income tax, Mass sales tax, and contributing to your local real estate tax either directly or through rent payments.Steve Foleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-59311430048634144552010-11-17T12:53:11.100-05:002010-11-17T12:53:11.100-05:00Brendan:
This seriously makes sense to you?
Bil...Brendan:<br /><br />This seriously makes sense to you?<br /><br /><br />BillBill Randellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-47153364635389203002010-11-17T12:16:26.523-05:002010-11-17T12:16:26.523-05:00Not surprised at all, it makes perfect sense.Not surprised at all, it makes perfect sense.Brendan Melicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157104291619996657noreply@blogger.com