tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post6316026162369425349..comments2023-09-25T06:47:42.119-05:00Comments on Worcester Blog: Final Decision--No DecisionBill Randellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-32285270081273401772007-06-24T21:14:00.000-05:002007-06-24T21:14:00.000-05:00BIll, I dont think Cigna makes decisions based on ...BIll, I dont think Cigna makes decisions based on what TiM Murray wants. They were divesting themselves of a losing piece of real estate with or with out Mr Murray. Murray just takes credit for it, just as he has claimed credit for the idea of with Front St through the Mall. He will now blame O'Brien when the project gets delayed.<BR/><BR/> Any buyer would have razed the mall b/c its not a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-44947046570443664642007-06-23T21:06:00.000-05:002007-06-23T21:06:00.000-05:00Architect is dan benoit who came up with the idea ...Architect is dan benoit who came up with the idea of putting driving through the Worc. Center.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I personally think Tim Murray did a great job getting CIGNA to sell the Worcester Ctr and to get Berkeley on-line for City Square...<BR/><BR/><BR/>Problem I have is that once market conditions have changed and it is obvious City Square is not on schedule, everyone pretends that all is well.Bill Randellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-33159564655409673362007-06-23T16:52:00.000-05:002007-06-23T16:52:00.000-05:00FWIW, Murray didnt come with the idea of opening u...FWIW, Murray didnt come with the idea of opening up Front St. <BR/><BR/> A Local guy who I believe is an architect did. I cannot recall his name. This guy had been touting the idea for a number of years. The demise of Fashion Outlets certainly helped his cause though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-17665740358139239352007-06-23T14:52:00.000-05:002007-06-23T14:52:00.000-05:00same guy. He got elected on smoke and mirrors maki...same guy. He got elected on smoke and mirrors making people think everything was rosy in the city on the move. Then he got elected and the problems are coming to roost.O'Brien is lost now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-87362857348508061802007-06-23T13:03:00.000-05:002007-06-23T13:03:00.000-05:00Is this the same Tim Murray that Worcester thinks ...Is this the same Tim Murray that Worcester thinks came up with the idea to punch Front St through to Union Station and to give the councillors a 90% pay raiseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-12346531219460465032007-06-23T08:57:00.000-05:002007-06-23T08:57:00.000-05:00City Sq., if it is built will be vastly different....City Sq., if it is built will be vastly different. The city on the move has got to realize it is not Boston. Tim M. got everything put on the back burner till he got elected and O'Brien did what he was told to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-45092352701383159152007-06-22T16:28:00.000-05:002007-06-22T16:28:00.000-05:00Anonymous, if this housing bust lasts 9 yrs like t...Anonymous, if this housing bust lasts 9 yrs like the last one ( 1989 - 1998), then City Sq housing build out may not come until 2015??<BR/><BR/> Let us also not foget that the current boom was way overdone b/c the fed dropped interest rates to historic lows after 9-11 to prop up economy. Therefore it may take even longer to rebound.<BR/><BR/> Maybe City Sq folks will want more than a free Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-56133834526845677062007-06-22T13:29:00.000-05:002007-06-22T13:29:00.000-05:00The economy has changed dramatially since City Sq....The economy has changed dramatially since City Sq. was conceived in early 2004. Market Rate housing is not as possible now. Besides, they need a large tenant first. Businesses are not expanding either! The City Mgr. has a tough road to hoe here. I'm sure he is working hard at it, but the economy is the economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-11471899071455588042007-06-22T10:27:00.000-05:002007-06-22T10:27:00.000-05:00Thank you, i didnt remember that QCC already has(h...Thank you, i didnt remember that QCC already has(had?)a presence there<BR/><BR/> I think that further bolsters my point that we're having a re-hash of old tenants (except registry of deeds)...so what exactly has changed that's going to re - make the area in an 18 hr-a-day venue? Registry deeds is a 9-5 operation. I guess we did run the porn outta the area...which is great.<BR/><BR/> The Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-79505164551668449462007-06-22T09:44:00.000-05:002007-06-22T09:44:00.000-05:00Quinsigamond college has been there since 2002. Th...Quinsigamond college has been there since 2002. The city recruited them to the mall at that time from another location. I have taught there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-57048941025847796372007-06-22T07:30:00.000-05:002007-06-22T07:30:00.000-05:00City Sq seems to be signing up tenants, includng t...City Sq seems to be signing up tenants, includng tenants like the registry of deeds, CVS, Subway, Quinsig CC & YMCA satellites. More are coming down the pike, per T&G. <BR/><BR/> Hoepfully the grapples arent too far behind. <BR/><BR/> These tenants are reported to be a "key element of efforts to make Worc's downtown a lively, 18 hour -a -day venue....." HUH !!! <BR/><BR/> Seems to me weAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-92026585161449670022007-06-21T17:12:00.000-05:002007-06-21T17:12:00.000-05:00Anonymous:That has been my point for months, we sh...Anonymous:<BR/><BR/>That has been my point for months, we should be doing a nationwide "Airport For Sale" campaign, bringing in the investment bankers like Councilor Irish has suggested, invited National Express to ORH, etc!!!! Why not invite the management for the airports that run Providence, Manchester or Harttford to ORH?<BR/><BR/>There is no contingency plan. All of our eggs are in the Bill Randellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-77760441368990027402007-06-21T16:36:00.000-05:002007-06-21T16:36:00.000-05:00Do we have a contingency plan if we cant come to a...Do we have a contingency plan if we cant come to an agreement with Massport? All good managers have a back up plan if and when their keys players get injured. what's in the bullpen if Massport takes a hikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-91309836647445872942007-06-21T12:20:00.000-05:002007-06-21T12:20:00.000-05:00Charley Farley:For what it is worth, this is the o...Charley Farley:<BR/><BR/>For what it is worth, this is the one time I wish I was truly wrong. I was hoping for a long-term lease a nominal amount with MassPort pick up the entire deficits both operating and non-operating (debt service).<BR/><BR/>Not only did we not get this but it looks like we will still be paying the non-operating bills like debt service which runs 600,000 to 700,000 per year.Bill Randellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-19696763681841919132007-06-21T11:48:00.000-05:002007-06-21T11:48:00.000-05:00Bill wrote:"Hate to say this, not really, I was ri...Bill wrote:<BR/>"Hate to say this, not really, I was right again"<BR/><BR/>Yup. You were right. I was wrong. I tip my hat to you.<BR/><BR/> - CFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-86788611786621396292007-06-21T10:15:00.000-05:002007-06-21T10:15:00.000-05:00Bill, I sometimes wonder if the we are biting off ...Bill, I sometimes wonder if the we are biting off more than we can chew in terms of building projects.....which projects sometimes require debt service 20 & 30 yrs into the future.<BR/><BR/> Maybe take em one at time.....fimish one move on to the next. Can you imagine what the manaager's job must be like just running around putting brushfires all day and at the same time trying to make forward Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-81298495152915767642007-06-21T08:58:00.000-05:002007-06-21T08:58:00.000-05:00Jahn:Some will call you negative and I got to say ...Jahn:<BR/><BR/>Some will call you negative and I got to say you sometimes do look at the glass more as half empty then as half full. <BR/><BR/>I agree, however, with many of your points here. As you know the airport is particularly bothersome to me. Not do anything when we knew for three years this day was coming simply makes no sense.Bill Randellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-44916538250554335702007-06-21T08:08:00.000-05:002007-06-21T08:08:00.000-05:00I know many city projects/undertakings are massiv...I know many city projects/undertakings are massive deals and with politicing involved they can be held up forever it seems.<BR/><BR/> Last June were were told City Sq demo would begin in winter....then in fall were told it would be March.......we are now 3 months beyond March.<BR/><BR/> Union Station buildout, infrastructure & parking garage are years behind.<BR/><BR/> City Hall councilAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-90580442735519791202007-06-21T02:36:00.000-05:002007-06-21T02:36:00.000-05:00Tim:The more I think about it, this is the worse t...Tim:<BR/><BR/>The more I think about it, this is the worse thing that could have happened. First the peak season for travel is the winter season and no airline will commit to ORH not knowing what the future mgmt will be at ORH. In other words it will be difficult to get any airline here for this winter season.<BR/><BR/>Secondly the cost. We will be paying the entire debt service and 32% of the Bill Randellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12621739944440784768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8661737.post-73285130704747345802007-06-20T22:32:00.000-05:002007-06-20T22:32:00.000-05:00Another six months!! It is the last thing I wanted...Another six months!! It is the last thing I wanted to see, it gives the impression that nothing has happened or will happen this year. <BR/><BR/>I wish I knew what the real issues were behind ORH. <BR/><BR/>I sometimes wish I didn't even care about ORH!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com