February 03, 2009

Gardner Kilby Hammond Plans

Plans:
  1. 80 units of housing for first time home buyers
  2. New Boys Club
  3. State of the art athletic fields for Clark

Where do we stand:

  1. Boys Club is finished

  2. Clark Field not done yet, although I am confident that it will get done

  3. 38 units to date
  • Kilby (2 new duplexes)=4 units
  • Hollis (3 new duplexes)=6 units

  • Hollis (4 moved and rehabbed 3 deckers)= 12 units

  • Beacon (8 new duplexes)= 16 units
We have 42 units of housing that still need to be built.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

A. Any of these duplexes being rented b/c they cannot sell them?

B. Clark Athletic complex (partially complete) was supposed to be shared with the neighborhood? Is this happening?

C. Bill & I know this was all about Clark University and littel if anything to do with the 'hood and if anyone tries to tell you differnt that are full of cow manure.....so Clark can stop the posturing and own up to the fact it's all about them.

D. Time for Clarks pilot payment to pay back teh $5.8M CDBG.....which s/b really called the Clark Dev'ment Block Giveaway and/or the Full Employment Act for Main South CDC and Mr teasdale. Time to stifle these CDC's and their defacto (another persons term) ghetto-ization of Main South with this overly intensive land use/re-use/abuse. Worc. has been Bull++++'ed too long by non -profit dev'ers.

So how mnay units we got sold/rented now over on Cambridger Hacker..still only 2 out of 11??

Bill Randell said...

Jahn:

If this project had merely been a new Boys Club and a Clark U facility, this would have been a great project.

The 80 units of low to mod income housing has been the problem.

Bill

David Z. said...

Bill,

Today's WBJ Noon Update actually has an article on some new businesses for the city. One of them moving into Worcester from the burbs. Imagine that!

Are we suddenly becoming more business friendly?

http://www.wbjournal.com/news42649.html

Anonymous said...

Bill, do you recall when Tom Hoover was thinging about building teh new Trade School in that very area.............maybe even the exact same site.......problem was he forgot to run it by the powers that be...........Little did he know what Jack Foley, Clark, Main South CDC already had in mind for that area.

Did I read in the paper the other day an advertisement for the new Apts at Main & Madison..touting them as a good idea for artists?? Interesting b/c that was the plan just a few years ago.

I often wonder to myself why there's seesm to be a mindset that artists should get free studio space, cut rate apts/condo's, and who knows what other freebies.

"Arts Worcester Community Dev'ment Corp" .... comning to a neighborhood near you soon???

Anonymous said...

I was downtown yesterday and couldnt help but wonder why a firetruck with 4 men on it has to response to an apparent medical emergency. Then the driver just sits there in the truck blocking an entire lane. WTH..??? Ambulance arrives just after teh firetruck.....cops too.

How many warm bodies is too much. If a firetruck must be sent......just put 2 men on it...just like the EMT's do. I mean they got to be falling all over each other attempting to tend to the victim???

Bill Randell said...

Jahn:

Yes they floated the Trade School idea and it was crushed. Never understood that.

You would think a new Trade School, Boys Club and Clark University Sports facility would have been a better fit.

Bill

David Z. said...

Jahn,

In the scheme of things, I like the first responder law. Most stations are much closer to the accident scene or medical emergency than an ambulance trying to make it through traffic. And they are trained as emergency first responders.

And you can't send the fire truck with just 2 firefighters to a medical emergency. What happens if a structure fire breaks out while returning from an ambulance call? Do they swing by the station and pick up the other 2 FF’s or go to the scene short-handed?

Before I became the right fielder for the Bosox, I was a FF and there is not a lot you can do safely or effectively at a fire scene without a minimum of 4 FF’s. The first truck on the scene has to drop a line at the hydrant which requires one FF to connect and open the hydrant. This would only leave 1 FF at the building. Have you ever tried to operate a fully charged 2 ½ inch water line at a fire scene? And that’s not even taking into account if there is life involved and you need to perform a search and rescue.

With all due respect, you’re way off base with your constant criticism of the Worcester Fire Department.

Dewey

Bill Randell said...

Too bad Dewey knew as much about increasing the price of EMC stock as he does about fire departments.

Anonymous said...

Dewey you're making my point for me. You're Asking:

"what happens if a fire breaks out when a fire truck is returning when returing from an ambulance call?" (with only 2 men on it)

My point is that a 20 ton fire truck should not be racing through the city streets to what by your own words is an "ambulance call"

And what happens if a fire breaks out while a huge piece of FF'ing apparatus is at what should be only be an ambulance call and that appartus is needed to fight a fire acroos town and is not needed to tend to what are most often minor accidents/med. emergency calls.

Your talk of 4 men initally responding to a fire scene.....the first truck on the scene runs the hose from the hydrant.........but what isnt being said is that other trucks have already arrived or will very soon be arriving......as the first truck is running the hose...and they each have 4 (can we do it with 3) men on them for search, rescue, whatever else needs to be done at the scene.

Sorry Dewey but I think FF'ers s/b out and about the city with the equipment with them clearing sidewalks, paving sidewalks, cleaning the city, etc rather then chillin' at the fire barn. When a call comes in for a fire, just drop what you're doing and respond. This notion of first responder only seems to apply when there is no real labor invloved. Unshoveled sidewalks are a safety hazard an our 1st respondres s/b clearing them.

Dewey, I guess we'll just have to disagree. This notion of 1st responder is merely all about getting public visiblity for the FF'ers. Continually sending a huge vehicle racing up and down PArk Ave to minor accidents is frankly a PIA..and that applies even if it's my Grannie who just tripped on the crub after her Elm Park Hot Dog. Let the ambulance handle it.

Also, again this notion that FF'ers have a dangerous job is also more hyberbole than anything. Accident and death statistics prove this out year after year. Fathers dont bring their sons, daughters, nephews, etc to a job that is really truly dangerous. If anything they tell their family to aviod the line of work if it's truly dangerous.

Check out the accident/death stats for Commercial fishermen, timber harvesters, pizza delivery boys, and truckers someday. It's an eye opener as to what's a truly dangerous occupation and not merely a danger that is a figment of the media and political establishments imagination.

Many of the public will tell you quietly behind the scenes that they are sick of FF'ers continually thumping their chests
as to how great they are. True work and heroisnm is done behind the scenes quietly and with constant clamoring for hero status ( and a pay raise).

David Z. said...

Jahn,

I do agree with you that we'll just have to agree to disagree on the FF issue but let me give you a real example of what I spoke about initially.

Yesterday around 5 I was in Paulie's hood and there was a medical emergency near the former City Hospital. A pumper truck arrived very quickly and the trained medical first responders (i.e. the Fire Fighters) started administering medical care. Almost 10 minutes later an ambulance arrived due to the traffic volume. If you were suffering a heart attack you would not have had a chance if weren't for the FIRE FIGHTERS!

Unless we’re going to park an ambulance in every fire station in the city, we need the first responder law!

Anonymous said...

jahn you forgot another truly dangerous occupation. Working at an airport. Really dangers abound everywhere even more so than Axmen or Ice road Truckers. Hopefully a reality show will be forthcoming on this unsung profession!

Anonymous said...

David, I could say the same thing if the Ambulance arrived 1st and FF'ers arrived 2nd.... i.e. the person suffering a heart attack would have been dead waiting for the so called 1st responders.

Fine by me to park an ambulance in every Fire station as long as it's not staffed by IIAF labor.

It's the union figghting the city over who will staff the ambulance that in reality keeps the ambulance out of the fire station. So much for FF'ers concern abourt public safety...vs....the union rank & file dues paying members and what is best for them vs what is best for the accident/med emergency victim.

David why do I see so many vehicles at Walmart or at Price Chopper with Police and FF'er decals on them? So much for the united brotherhood supporting each others causes. Shouldn't the brotherhood be shopping at union only outlets?

Anonymous, please get me a cite or statistics for dangerous airport occupations? How dare you even call that place an airport. That's like calling sitting in the fire barn all day or sleeping in it all night dangerous....just kidding. Which airport occupations are dangerous? Didnt they just get rid of the dangerous position of airport accountant? Dam those bean counters !!! Thanx

I am not talking about Ice Road Truckers. I am talking about the concrete cowboys (not the ice cowboys) who roll across our interstates daily. Truly a dangerous occupation. Are Ice Road Truckers even more exposed to danger?

Anonymous said...

Yes...concrete cowboys don't have to worry about falling through the asphalt!!!

Anonymous said...

How about falling through a concrete bridge up in Minneapolis?

Anonymous said...

Steel structures gave way didn't it? In any event a tragic way to go!